{"id":8865,"date":"2026-07-09T16:18:53","date_gmt":"2026-07-09T19:18:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/?p=8865"},"modified":"2026-08-12T17:08:42","modified_gmt":"2026-08-12T20:08:42","slug":"shared-stories-life-in-objects","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/en\/historias-compartilhadas-a-vida-nos-objetos\/","title":{"rendered":"Life in objects"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I've always been fascinated by images.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Since I was little, I would pick up books and magazines I found at home and spend hours observing those tiny ink dots \u2013 some larger, others smaller, some lighter, others darker. I remember bringing my face closer to and further away from the pages and never tiring of being surprised when, at a certain distance, I saw the dots transform into a woman's face, a soda can, or a landscape.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I lived in S\u00e3o Bernardo do Campo, a municipality in the S\u00e3o Paulo metropolitan region that became famous for its automotive industry. The city concentrated, for a long time, a series of car manufacturers and there was no shortage of technical courses for anyone who wanted to pursue the field.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was a time with not much information about career opportunities. Thus, I ended up enrolling in both general mechanics at Mercedes-Benz and technical drawing, and the teachers were constantly suggesting great internship options to me, but I wasn't interested in any of them.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9342\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9342\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-9342\" src=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal1.png\" alt=\"Personal photo, Rosael\" width=\"600\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal1.png 600w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal1-225x300.png 225w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal1-113x150.png 113w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal1-9x12.png 9w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9342\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Credits: Rodrigo Fonseca<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One day, walking the streets of the automaker, I saw a Japanese gentleman pacing back and forth with a tripod and camera in his hand. I had no idea photography could be a profession, but when I saw that scene, I knew it would be my path.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I knew I didn't have a knack for working on a car assembly line, but when I told my supervisors about this little old man, I found out I could do a photography internship there at Mercedes.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The job involved taking pictures of worn parts to assist with vehicle reports \u2013 obviously, nothing was more boring.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was there, however, that I learned to handle the camera and began to develop a taste for photography.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the 1980s, Kodak had just released a compendium in this field, with 18 volumes that taught about the functioning of the camera and film, in addition to several examples on how to explore the photographic language.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was an expensive book, and I didn't have the originals, but I managed to get access to a summary and spent my days studying everything that was in it. With this, I ended up setting up a lab at home and, in a self-taught way, learned more and more.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was during this same period that I began to discover what lay beyond S\u00e3o Bernardo. With my sister, who was a little older, I started going to S\u00e3o Paulo frequently, where we would visit art exhibitions whenever we could. I still remember to this day finding a Cartier-Bresson book at the S\u00e3o Paulo Cultural Center library.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Your photos, despite their spontaneity, have an impressive visual organization. The lines, shadows, and geometric shapes fit together so perfectly they seem planned. They are ordinary people in seemingly everyday situations, but captured in a very touching way.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I know many people cite him as a reference and say that, because of his work, they decided to become photographers.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I can't say if that's exactly what happened to me, because what I feel is that I've always had an inclination for art, but I didn't know what to do with it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9341\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9341\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9341 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal2.png\" alt=\"Personal photo, Rosael\" width=\"600\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal2.png 600w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal2-225x300.png 225w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal2-113x150.png 113w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Rosael-foto-pessoal2-9x12.png 9w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9341\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Credits: Rodrigo Fonseca<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Since I was a child, I was good at drawing and loved doing observational portraits. When my mother slept, I took advantage of the fact that she would stay still for a good while and grabbed my ink pen to draw her. At my brother-in-law's small grocery store, where I worked for two or three years, I couldn't just put anything away haphazardly. If I had to organize matchboxes or rolls of toilet paper, I would always find a different way to arrange the items on the shelves, creating pyramids or other geometric shapes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Of course, Cartier-Bresson, in that sense, was an inspiration, and even today, if I had to choose a name, I would say I consider him the greatest. But, with that book by Bresson, what changed was the perception that, through photography, it was possible to extract beauty from the most everyday situations, like a boy playing in the street or a lady having coffee.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Until I found my path, however, I went from place to place.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">From an internship in an imaging lab, I moved to my brother's carpentry shop, then to a job as an illustrator where I drew automotive parts manuals, and finally ended up in a ceramics workshop as a designer, copying models from abroad and later developing my own product collections.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">All I know is that when I arrived at Ipiranga, I had already been to so many places and stayed so little in each of them that I thought my time here would also be temporary. The record had been five years as an association photographer \u2013 nothing compared to my time at the Museum, where I've been for 30 years.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At first, my role was to photograph the objects in the collection, which is something that seems simple. You look at a screen, flat, stationary. It must be easy, right?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But no, because to get a good image of a two-dimensional painting, you need technical knowledge that few photographers have, and that I didn't have at the time either.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Until I was able to develop this skill, I had to do a lot of research and I learned what actually worked in practice. In this process, I discovered the importance of polarizing filters, which work almost like a Venetian blind \u2013 they only let a part of the light through, filtering out rays coming from other directions, and helping to reduce reflections.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And this is a big challenge for those who photograph objects, because the shinier they are, the more difficult it will be to capture them. The first time I photographed the porcelain collection, I had to come up with a real workaround. I found some rolls of tracing paper that had been forgotten in a room and built a sort of booth where I would place the pieces and thus manage to minimize reflected light.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8868\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8868\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8868 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-2.png\" alt=\"Rosael photographing furniture for the catalog of the exhibition &quot;Sit, Store, Sleep&quot;. Credits: Thiago Malakowsky\" width=\"600\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-2.png 600w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-2-225x300.png 225w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-2-113x150.png 113w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-2-9x12.png 9w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8868\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rosael photographing furniture for the catalog of the exhibition \u201cSit, Store, Sleep\u201d. Credits: Thiago Malakowsky<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Another difficulty is the recoil needed to capture large pieces. When we are in a service area or some tight spot, we manage as best we can, but the ideal is to have space. Fortunately, in the Grand Hall, we had some room to work because the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Independence or Death!<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It is 4.15 meters high and 7.60 meters wide. There, to avoid distorting the image, we had to take the shot from scaffolding, also using a huge lighting setup and two 1200-watt generators.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The beauty of it all is to think that not even the painter or the sculptor will see the works that way. And this happens because the eye cannot capture colors so purely \u2013 it's impossible to look at a painting and have the lighting distributed equally. That's why people often say that photography is sharper than the thing itself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I won't lie and say I'm not very proud to see these images and to realize that it's through them that many people will have the opportunity to get to know the works \u2013 after all, not everyone is in S\u00e3o Paulo, nor are all the pieces on public display all the time.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I feel that, in this process, I've come to understand my profession better. When I started, there was a mythical idea of the artist as someone extraordinary, one who was both a genius and a madman.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8866\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8866\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8866 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-1.png\" alt=\"Rosael preparing the scene for guest photos at the opening of the exhibition &quot;Sit, Store, Sleep&quot;. Credits: Thiago Malakowsky\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-1.png 800w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-1-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-1-150x113.png 150w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-1-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/museudoipiranga.org.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Jose-Rosael-arquivo-pessoal-1-16x12.png 16w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8866\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rosael preparing the scene for guest photos at the opening of the exhibition \u201cSit, Store, Sleep\u201d. Credits: Thiago Malakowsky<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And that scared me a lot because I didn't feel like a genius or crazy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But, looking at my journey, I understand today that it's possible to work with art without necessarily being an artist, and that's what I do in my day-to-day at the Museum when I aim to take photos with technical excellence. And that's when artistic images emerge, which I consider beautiful, funny, and even moving.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In these 30 years, I also know that I had an opportunity that few people have, because, little by little, I got to know almost the entire collection of the Ipiranga Museum. The curious thing is that, despite this, I wouldn't be able to name an item for which I feel a special affection. And yet, I've spent a lot of time reflecting on this, trying to fit together the fragments of memory and find something that would make my heart beat faster.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHelp. Someone give me a heart. What's wrong with me?\u201d I even thought.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But Cartier-Bresson himself said that, as photographers, we cannot have any kind of prejudice\u2014and this also includes, on the other hand, predilections. And there's also a quote from Leonardo da Vinci about us being like mirrors that reflect everything and yet remain pure.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In a way, when I'm photographing, my involvement is objective \u2013 the focus is entirely directed toward what will ensure the best image, and if passion intervenes, the result would certainly be worse.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the other hand, for many years, I was completely focused on the collection, with a super-technical view, but I felt limited in my freedom to create images that revealed my perception of what was being represented.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I think I've recently managed to discover one of my main passions: portraiture. Arnold Newman, in this regard, is a reference for me. At a time when portraits were mainly made in studios, with neutral backgrounds and formal poses, he began to explore how people integrated into their environment.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Every day, then, I leave my house on Bom Pastor Street and walk to Nazar\u00e9 Avenue, to the house next to the museum where I work every day, on a route that crosses Independence Park.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And even when I say I'm not going to record anything, I never manage to.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Every time I pass by the Museum, I notice my gaze drawn to the equation between what is static \u2013 the building \u2013 and what is in motion \u2013 the people. Because it is they, after all, who give life to spaces, it is they who gave life to everything in our collection and is today stored and conditioned.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe that's it, after all.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It's not that there's something wrong with my heart, it's that I can't decide on my favorite item from the collection, because I can only see all the charm of the objects when they are handled, in everyday life, in the routine, by a hand full of intentions and life.<\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sempre tive fasc\u00ednio por imagens. Desde pequeno, pegava livros e revistas que encontrava em casa e ficava horas observando aqueles min\u00fasculos pontos de tinta \u2013 alguns maiores, outros menores, uns mais claros, outros mais escuros. 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